Formal Minutes

Wednesday 23 January 2008

Members present:

Michael Connarty, in the Chair
Mr Adrian Bailey
Mr David S Borrow
Mr William Cash
Ms Katy Clark
Jim Dobbin
Mr Greg Hands
Mr David Heathcoat-Amory
Mr Keith Hill
Kelvin Hopkins
Angus Robertson
Mr Anthony Steen
Richard Younger Ross

1. Scrutiny of Documents

Draft Report, proposed by the Chairman, brought up and read.

Ordered, That the draft Report be read a second time, paragraph by paragraph.

Paragraphs 1.1 to 17.7 read and agreed to.

Paragraph 18, Headnote read. Amendment proposed in line 17, to leave out the word "Cleared", and to insert the words "For debate in European Standing Committee". €” (Mr William Cash.)

Question put, That the Amendment be made.

The Committee divided.

Ayes, 3

Noes, 8

Mr William Cash

Mr Adrian Bailey

Mr David Heathcoat-Amory

Mr David S Borrow

Kelvin Hopkins

Ms Katy Clark

Jim Dobbin

Mr Greg Hands

Mr Keith Hill

Mr Anthony Steen

Richard Younger-Ross

Headnote agreed to.

Paragraphs 18.1 to 19 read and agreed to.

Resolved, That the Report be the Ninth Report of the Committee to the House.

Ordered, That the Chairman make the Report to the House.

2. Draft Report on The Conclusions of the European Council and the Council of Ministers

Motion made, and Question put, That the draft Report be read a second time, paragraph by paragraph. €” (The Chairman.)

The Committee divided.

Ayes, 7

Noes, 2

Ms Katy Clark

Mr Adrian Bailey

Jim Dobbin

Mr Keith Hill

Mr Greg Hands

Mr David Heathcoat-Amory

Kelvin Hopkins

Mr Anthony Steen

Richard Younger-Ross

Ordered, That the Chairman's draft Report be read a second time, paragraph by paragraph.

Paragraph 1 read.

Amendment proposed, in line 3, to leave out "secretive" and to insert "carried out in conditions of confidentiality." €” ( Mr Keith Hill.)

Question put, That the Amendment be made.

The Committee divided.

Ayes, 3

Noes, 6

Mr Adrian Bailey

Jim Dobbin

Ms Katy Clark

Mr Greg Hands

Mr Keith Hill

Mr David Heathcoat-Amory

Kelvin Hopkins

Mr Anthony Steen

Richard Younger-Ross

Paragraph agreed to.

Paragraphs 2 to 12 read and agreed to.

Paragraph 13 read.

Question put, That the paragraph stand part of the Report.

The Committee divided.

Ayes, 6

Noes, 2

Ms Katy Clark

Mr Adrian Bailey

Jim Dobbin

Mr Keith Hill

Mr Greg Hands

Mr David Heathcoat-Amory

Kelvin Hopkins

Richard Younger-Ross

Paragraph agreed to.

Paragraphs 14 to 21 read and agreed to.

Paragraph 22 read.

Amendment proposed, in line 14, to leave out "many" and to insert "some". €” ( Mr Keith Hill.)

Question put, That the Amendment be made.

The Committee divided.

Ayes, 6

Noes, 2

Mr Adrian Bailey

Mr Greg Hands

Ms Katy Clark

Mr David Heathcoat-Amory

Jim Dobbin

Mr Keith Hill

Kelvin Hopkins

Richard Younger-Ross

Another Amendment proposed, in line 15, after "have" to insert "varying levels of". €” ( Mr Keith Hill.)

Question put, That the Amendment be made.

The Committee divided.

Ayes, 3

Noes, 5

Mr Adrian Bailey

Jim Dobbin

Ms Katy Clark

Mr Greg Hands

Mr Keith Hill

Mr David Heathcoat-Amory

Kelvin Hopkins

Richard Younger-Ross

Paragraph, as amended, agreed to.

Paragraphs 23 to 27 read and agreed to.

Paragraph 28 read.

Amendment proposed, in line 1, to leave out "well-informed". €” ( Mr Keith Hill.)

Question put, That the Amendment be made.

The Committee divided.

Ayes, 2

Noes, 6

Mr Adrian Bailey

Ms Katy Clark

Mr Keith Hill

Jim Dobbin

Mr Greg Hands

Mr David Heathcoat-Amory

Kelvin Hopkins

Richard Younger-Ross

Another Amendment proposed, in line 6, to leave out "and bizarre". €” ( Mr Keith Hill.)

Question put, That the Amendment be made.

The Committee divided.

Ayes, 3

Noes, 5

Mr Adrian Bailey

Ms Katy Clark

Mr Keith Hill

Jim Dobbin

Richard Younger-Ross

Mr Greg Hands

Mr David Heathcoat-Amory

Kelvin Hopkins

Paragraph agreed to.

Paragraph 29 read.

Amendment proposed, in line 16, at the end, to add "This defect will be all the more serious if the Lisbon Treaty is ratified, since the European Council will become an institution of the EU, obliged to practice 'mutual sincere co-operation' with the other official EU institutions, and will have additional responsibilities for the Common Foreign and Security Policy." €” ( Mr David Heathcoat-Amory.)

Question put, That the Amendment be made.

The Committee divided.

Ayes, 4

Noes, 4

Mr Greg Hands

Mr Adrian Bailey

Mr David Heathcoat-Amory

Ms Katy Clark

Kelvin Hopkins

Jim Dobbin

Richard Younger-Ross

Mr Keith Hill

Whereupon the Chairman declared himself with the Noes.

Paragraph agreed to.

Paragraph 30 read.

Amendment proposed, in line 18, to leave out "and removing its present inefficiencies and eccentricities". €” ( Mr Adrian Bailey.)

Question put, That the Amendment be made.

The Committee divided.

Ayes, 3

Noes, 5

Mr Adrian Bailey

Jim Dobbin

Ms Katy Clark

Mr Greg Hands

Mr Keith Hill

Mr David Heathcoat-Amory

Kelvin Hopkins

Richard Younger-Ross

Another Amendment made.

Paragraph read, amended, and agreed to.

Paragraph 31 read.

Amendment proposed, in line 23, to leave out "indefensible" and insert "unacceptable". €” ( Mr Keith Hill.)

Question put, That the Amendment be made.

The Committee divided.

Ayes, 3

Noes, 5

Mr Adrian Bailey

Jim Dobbin

Ms Katy Clark

Mr Greg Hands

Mr Keith Hill

Mr David Heathcoat-Amory

Kelvin Hopkins

Richard Younger-Ross

Another Amendment made.

Paragraph read, amended and agreed to.

Paragraph 32 read.

Amendment proposed, in line 3, to leave out "in Parliament" and insert "with the European Scrutiny Committee". €” ( Mr Keith Hill.)

Question put, That the Amendment be made

The Committee divided.

Ayes, 2

Noes, 7

Mr Adrian Bailey

Mr William Cash

Mr Keith Hill

Ms Katy Clark

Jim Dobbin

Mr Greg Hands

Mr David Heathcoat-Amory

Kelvin Hopkins

Richard Younger-Ross

Another Amendment proposed, in line 3, to leave out "in Parliament" and insert "within the scrutiny process in Parliament". €” ( Richard Younger-Ross.)

Question put, That the Amendment be made

The Committee divided.

Ayes, 7

Noes, 2

Mr Adrian Bailey

Mr Greg Hands

Mr William Cash

Mr Keith Hill

Ms Katy Clark

Jim Dobbin

Mr David Heathcoat-Amory

Kelvin Hopkins

Richard Younger-Ross

Paragraph, as amended, agreed to.

Paragraphs 33 and 34 read and agreed to.

A Paper was appended to the Report as an Appendix.

Resolved, That the Report, as amended, be the Tenth Report of the Committee to the House.

Ordered, That the Chairman make the Report to the House.

Ordered, That embargoed copies of the Report be made available, in accordance with the provisions of Standing Order No. 134.

Written evidence was ordered to be reported to the House for printing with the Report.

3. Future Programme

Resolved, That the Committee inquire into Subsidiarity.

[Adjourned till Wednesday 30 January at 2.30 p.m.